Monday, June 06, 2005

chat about the 23IDC :)

Participant says:
...all I can say is you guys were amazing to be able to come up with such an empowering camp
MJ says:
I told u, how u'd like it. not only u met Sumi Loundon, the lady herself, am sure u've "discovered" certain things abt urself and how you'd wanna rewrite your destiny, and take the effort to be a better man.
MJ says:
what was the most inspiring moment you felt during the camp?
Participant says:
the Metta one
MJ says:
1st or 2nd metta?
Participant says:
2nd 1
MJ says:
I missed 2nd day Metta. Heard it was great.
Participant says:
Really had to re-open some things that I just sorta ignored.
MJ says:
what really happen in 2nd metta?!
MJ says:
am really curious! How cud i MISS that?!
Participant says:
we had to stare at each other
MJ says:
were u staring at a girl!?
Participant says:
ya.
Participant says:
if guy ah habis lo.
MJ says:
how does it feel staring at another girl?! for how long?
Participant says:
around 1-2 mins
Participant says:
me was blank coz I was telling myself that I am only staring at eyeballs.
MJ says:
so how does staring at eyeballs moved u?
Participant says:
that didint but what the speaker said did.
Participant says:
that when u love someone u do not expect a return
MJ says:
wow..
MJ says:
even bro. Oh Kim Leng said something abt love
Participant says:
coz..like so far
Participant says:
I fall in love with a girl, try to impress her, give her love and now i find out it isnt.
MJ says:
yes... u were hurt...
Participant says:
very
MJ says:
.. I first heard from Bro. Tan Ho Soon... in one of incovar camp long time ago "True Love is letting go"
Participant says:
which is y I let go my ex
Participant says:
coz I realize I was limiting her from her true potential.
Participant says:
so let go...
MJ says:
hey... i wonder... what its like for girl to stare at another girl!!
Participant says:
I dunno but I certainly wont feel comfortable if a guy stare at me
MJ says:
haha
MJ says:
must be a pretty Thai girl u were staring at!
Participant says:
nolah
MJ says:
so all in all.... im glad to know that it has really benefit u, not in 1 way.. but in a more deeper meaning way
Participant says:
in many ways, it was very geng


Participant says:
anyway, how did u guys came up with the idea for the experience
MJ says:
what was the significant part of the experience?
Participant says:
the sharing was the most significant. made me feel like crying. But the rest of the elements did play a very important role in setting the right mind frame
MJ says:
did anyone in your group cry?
MJ says:
of cos it's secret
Participant says:
everyone did I think
Participant says:
I did a lil too
MJ says:
I've been holding the secret of IXP for every camp.
MJ says:
u cannot reveal ppl's ixp secret.
Participant says:
Yup. At least not anyone within incovar.
Participant says:
like, briefly for me to explain to friends when necessary.
MJ says:
yeah..
Participant says:
I mean before starting to teach people how to prepare to accept other people's problems...
Participant says:
like counselors do. its amazing that u guys actually did all these for free,,.
MJ says:
Its Incovar that's why
MJ says:
the tag line .. we inspire ...
MJ says:
can i save this conversation?!
Participant says:
sure.
Participant says:
I think more importantly as Buddhists we should be able to sorta like learn about true love and show the world that Buddhists truly love instead of being like the rest
MJ says:
u dun have to show
MJ says:
love will conquer hate
MJ says:
that's the 1st verse in Dhammapada
Participant says:
yep
MJ says:
thanks...
Participant says:
but then again since only Buddhists have the privilege of learning what true love is compared to other people who just play with the word I love you
MJ says:
people are just people, with flaws… people have not learnt the meaning of love...
Participant says:
and also bout friendship
MJ says:
u should probably take pity on them, instead of getting hurt by them...
MJ says:
cos someday, u can inspire people to truly understand what love means?

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

it's not much a problem of gazing (there is a difference with staring) at someone with the same gender. but it's harder with a known friend who breaks into laughter each time he opens his eyes!!!

Anonymous said...

seriously, what was the metta meditation 2 about? care to shed some light about it?

Anonymous said...

something about radiating metta and feeling the love from your partner. the loving kindness. sit opposite the partner...closing the eye and then slowly gaze into your partner's eye and feel the metta. if one is having trouble, then close the eyes and compose the mind to a calmful state and try again. it takes two to be mindful... so to be serious at it.

Nee Sern said...

hey, i managed to catch a glimpse of the 2nd metta session. very powerful. even though i was not in the circle, i could feel the vibrations in the air.. we should try this more!

Jyon said...

sei mei...
2nd metta more vibes than 1st one. and everyone likes 2nd metta more...
1st metta conductor is who worr...aiyoh *scratch head*

sei jorr!!!

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